tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post2590840087026103922..comments2024-03-27T22:51:35.227-07:00Comments on Ken Shirriff's blog: How Hacker News ranking really works: scoring, controversy, and penaltiesKen Shirriffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08097301407311055124noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-92003628919938075782020-05-24T23:11:46.113-07:002020-05-24T23:11:46.113-07:00Thanks for the article. Nice analysis.Thanks for the article. Nice analysis.Suresh Dasarihttps://www.tutlane.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-72665308705737608082017-06-22T08:18:44.103-07:002017-06-22T08:18:44.103-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Robert Welainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10587031495938313347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-47617319227656225602015-10-03T18:11:43.534-07:002015-10-03T18:11:43.534-07:00@Anonymous, I think they should be, more trusted v...@Anonymous, I think they should be, more trusted votes are counted more, If I am not wrong. Simple example, when a new account publish or vote its not reflected immediately.JavaUserhttp://java67.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-58471103582698402822014-01-22T17:36:17.000-08:002014-01-22T17:36:17.000-08:00Very interesting! Two questions..
1) Any way to t...Very interesting! Two questions..<br /><br />1) Any way to tell if different accounts' votes are valued differently based on karma points, age etc.?<br /><br />2) What about if accounts' can be penalized rather then just certain sites? Not just being hellbanned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-66493307572685880722013-11-27T10:46:01.510-08:002013-11-27T10:46:01.510-08:00Hi Rohit! I received about 25K page views.Hi Rohit! I received about 25K page views.Ken Shirriffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097301407311055124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-63473114456305218682013-11-27T00:40:37.044-08:002013-11-27T00:40:37.044-08:00This article has got 705 point on HackerNews, quit...This article has got 705 point on HackerNews, quite an amazing feat. <br /> <br />How Hacker News ranking really works: scoring, controversy, and penalties (righto.com)<br />705 points by jseip 1 day ago | flag | 156 comments<br /><br />Any guess, How much traffic it would be? I guess, over 100K page views??Rohithttp://javarevisited.blogspot.innoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-62889760390777600882013-11-26T12:32:11.926-08:002013-11-26T12:32:11.926-08:00I was wondering why we* dropped off the front page...I was wondering why we* dropped off the front page so quickly... Hm.<br /><br />Thanks for putting this together.<br /><br /><br />* we = Prime. We had the "Get your health records from any doctor" post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00484092068134831325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-60317510649266377182013-11-26T11:38:56.143-08:002013-11-26T11:38:56.143-08:00Vianney Lecroart: unfortunately I'm note runni...Vianney Lecroart: unfortunately I'm note running my crawler any more, so I don't have data for your article.<br /><br />HN Reader: I'd like to know more about the voting ring detection too. Apparently that's what nailed my article. Like you, I'm definitely don't have any voting ring, so I don't know why I got hit by the detector.Ken Shirriffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097301407311055124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-3118243396175154552013-11-26T10:24:48.734-08:002013-11-26T10:24:48.734-08:00Awesome post! I'd love to see more about the v...Awesome post! I'd love to see more about the voting ring detection penalty. At this point, every one of my posts that makes the front page gets penalized. According to PG this is due to voting ring detection. I'm certainly not organizing any voting rings. I believe this may be another inadvertent type of penalty for popular domains -- having too many friends that upvote you and set off "voting ring detection". <br /><br />It's a bummer because I put a lot of time in the content and truly think it is good content. The end result is that I "set it and forget it" on Hacker News. Trying to engage there just leads to frustration when the comment thread suddenly drops from the front page. <br /><br />Another observation - my posts on gender (which I no longer write about due to the personal risk) got the "flamewar" penalty, even though they were honest, noncontroversial pieces generating some really good discussion. Apparently it was too much discussion. <br /><br />The algorithm probably protects us from a lot of junk but it also hurts sometimes too.HN Reader and Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-2052952537716498032013-11-26T02:11:29.593-08:002013-11-26T02:11:29.593-08:00I'll doing a postmortem of my article and I wo...I'll doing a postmortem of my article and I would be really amazed to see the graph my article i posted yesterday made on HN (What if successful startups are just lucky?).<br /><br />Does your crawler still running?<br /><br />I wonder if I had some penalties and what the graph looks like.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606889132090173983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-59970001624751362912013-11-20T07:41:27.408-08:002013-11-20T07:41:27.408-08:00Fabien: the discussion on HN is here and Reddit ha...Fabien: the discussion on HN is <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6755071" rel="nofollow">here</a> and Reddit has some discussion <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1qwnuh/how_hacker_news_ranking_works_scoring_and/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The Reddit discussion has some interesting links.Ken Shirriffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097301407311055124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-29701347779934215792013-11-19T06:40:35.811-08:002013-11-19T06:40:35.811-08:00Thank you! Very nice analysis!Thank you! Very nice analysis!Cd-MaNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05030326541176171725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-76314374116944130352013-11-19T04:18:18.357-08:002013-11-19T04:18:18.357-08:00Would you mind posting a link to the corresponding...Would you mind posting a link to the corresponding HN discussion, as it's burried and searching in HN is impractical at best?Fabienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02739446213556869485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6264947694886887540.post-28082886321920768322013-11-18T14:56:47.374-08:002013-11-18T14:56:47.374-08:00Nice analysis! You should check for stories that ...Nice analysis! You should check for stories that involve YC companies and/or their competitors. I've often thought that HN gives unfair advantage to stories about YC companies, beyond just the normal echo-chamber effect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com